Post by ximph on Aug 21, 2014 22:34:14 GMT
How does the DD rotation list work?
All items on the list appear on the Sims 3 Store Daily Deal page in numerical order, typically for one or two hours - However, some very popular items can sell out before time, especially when the list repeats. When the last item has appeared, it repeats some or all of the list starting at #1. The problem, on the first rotation, is that we don't know what the last deal on the list will be so constant vigilance is required!
This list started on the 3rd of July. Previous lists have repeated several times, some did not repeat at all, some repeated but didn't get quite to the end of the list. There's no guarantee that this one will work in the same way as any other list :roll:
Following these DD threads (see the link back to the previous thread below) is also a good way to keep track of what sales prices have been, so you can budget those valuable SimPoints wisely. If you're patient, you can usually find something on sale and it's a good idea to know what price range a particular item has gone for in times past. :mrgreen:
If you wish to check or compare the previous DD rotation please refer to the Old May 2014 List thread
When shopping from the DD, make sure to keep these threads in mind as well as they can help you decide, budget and prioritize:
Free Items: Just to note, see something free, pick it up. It may not stay free for very long or may even be "vaulted". Check this list often as things can change often.
Items not in Set: This is a list of store items that don't come in a set. It also includes info about items that you can only get from sets.
Thank yous
To the previous thread keepers: ajaxpost, Mmdrgntobldrgn, 2Mahawk and, of course, becomingjenn Thank you for keeping us all up to date on previous sales and trends. Letting us know what we've missed or what is coming up (in the cases of repeats) Thank you!
ALWAYS Check the Set Page, NOT the DD Page!
If you already have items in a set that on DD and have a CYS discount, or indeed already own the whole set, the DD page itself may not show this.
To make sure you see the actual price you will pay (including any CYS discount) or confirm that you already own the set, click on the set title to see the full details and that page should show your correct price.
Getting Great Discounts Using Complete Your Set
The 'Complete Your Set' feature introduced on (about) 17th July is a great new way to bag amazing deals on the sets you want - especially if you make use of great DD discounts or, better still, the FREE items.
The Daily Deal Stalkers Research Team in association with our Mathematicians In Residence, Shogo_Yahagi, Jaquaine and PakaJynx, have some very useful advice to offer:
Calculate the CYS Discount On A Set
The basic rule for working out the CYS price is (Set Price*.9)-(Item Cost*.9) rounded up to the nearest 5sp.
So, for example, if a set normally costs 1000sp and the price of all the items in it that you have bought individually is 300sp then your CYS price would be about 630sp (900 - 270).
Calculate the CYS Discount On A Compilation or Combo
The same 90% rule still applies but the trick here is working out which set(s) within the compilation have the most expensive items because that will give you the best discount on the compilation - it may not be the most expensive set and is seldom properly balanced. PakaJynx gave us this example for the Island Escape compilation which normally costs 2400 but the total cost of all the items in the three sets is 3028:
Island Villa 300 (cost of all items = 381)
Full Tiki Set 575 (cost of all items = 872)
Tiki Outdoor Party 1600 (cost of all items = 1775)
If you own the Full Tiki set that would count for 872sp out of the total 3028sp, about 29%. Then using the normal formula (2400* .9)-(872 * .9) you should see a CYS price of 1375sp
Stack Your Discounts
CYS discounts are applied in addition to any Sale page or Daily Deal discount so if you know a set you're after is going to be on sale or is on the DD rotation it's worth waiting to get two discounts in place of just one.
These handy calculators should give you a good estimate of your final price when stacking CYS with a Sale or DD discount:
:arrow: From Elianahere: Just type in the CYS and DD numbers to get your best price: elianahere.jwhostings.net/
:arrow: From APotts: Type in your CYS and the DD discount % to get your best price, or see what % will give you a set for free: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjBxKQ-zJWrQdEIyaFVjWHgxVWhzSE41eXBvU3dCY1E&usp=sharing#gid=0 (can be downloaded so you can play with different numbers.
If you love doing the sums yourself, the information below should help you work out what your final discount price should be or you could use one of the calculators above.
We have Jaquaine to thank for her help in calculating the DD+CYS discounts. This is especially useful when the DD list repeats because you can now check what your final price is likely to be and budget your simpoints accordingly.
The equation is Your Final Price = (DD Price * .9)- ((Full Price * .9) - Normal CYS price)
So, using an example Wallin gave us:
Let's say there's a set for 1000. You own some of it already, so your CYS price is 800. Then it comes up on the DD at 50% off, so the DD price is only 500.
Following the formula:
Full Price = 1000
Normal CYS Price = 800
DD Price = 500
(Full Price * .9) - Normal CYS Price → 900 - 800 → 100
(DD Price * .9) - 100 → 450 - 100 → 350
(1000 * .9) - 800 = 100
(500 * .9) - 100 = 350
So you should expect to only pay 350sp, or something very close to that.
Paying Full Price Is Sometimes Worth It!
As unbelievable as it sounds it's true!
Shogo_Yahagi gave us this example:
1) Go to the Gothic Glamour Home Office Set. Buy the Scary Stare Statue for 25 SP.
2) Now buy the Home Office Set for your new CYS price of 345 SP, for a total spend of 370 SP you've bought a set priced at 408 SP; now watch the dominoes fall...
3) Go to the Gothic Glamour Living Room and Home Office Collection. Hit your shiny new Download Now button to get your Free Gothic Glamour Living Room Set.
4) Go to Technophobe No More. Hit your shiny new Download Now button to get your free MultiTab.
5) Go to the Oh My Goth! Compilation. Hit your shiny new Download Now button to get your free Steampunk Savvy Set, Gothique Sleeping Room, and Gothique Living Room sets.
You now have a compilation of five sets valued at 1750 SP plus a PC item worth 500 SP for only 370 SP! :thumbup:
It works because the first item you buy in a set that is CYS enabled takes more off the price of the set than you paid for the item. But this only works for the first item.
Normally each item you buy only reduces the set price by 90% of the cost of the item but for the first item you also get a bonus of 10% of the whole set price. If you buy the first item in a set at full price, your discount is equal to (10% of the Set Price) - (10% of the item cost).
The 10% of the item cost that you lose is the difference between what you pay and what you save. Therefore the more expensive the item is that you buy the less you will save.
Free Stuff Is Always Worth It
Take this example calculated by Murphysluck:
Some time ago the week-end freebies were two items in the Club Vaindenburger Den set, and that set was also discounted by 40%:
However if you got only the two free items and then went to the Club Vaindenburger Den set page in the Store you would see a CYS price of just 155 that's an impressive 69% discount!
Then, now you've got the Den, why not get the Club Vaindenburger study as well as part of the Club Vaindenburger Relaxation combo which is now only 295. So, by picking up the two FREE items you can get both Club Vaindenburger sets for a total price of 450sp - that's a tasty 50% discount! :thumbup:
Buy The Venue First
NOTE: This advice is currently contested. The "assumed" values for venues may not be as substantial as previously thought. There have been documented reports that purchasing Le Cinema Plumbob and The Stones Throw Greenhouse will get you either a very large CYS discount on the compilations that they are part of or even, potentially, make them free. Not all venues will be as significant. In particular the Regency Arcade appears to be have been greatly overvalued. Until such time as we can get up-to date values for the venues please use caution and only buy them when their price is acceptable to you on its own; do not pay more for them than you are happy with just to get an extra discount on a compilation.
There is one slight problem with doing the maths on compilations and that is when a venue is included.
The problem is that you cannot see the true total cost of a venue. You will normally see a price for any PC that is included but the various build/buy and CAS items are not usually available individually so you do not know how much they would cost and, of course, there is some value in the build itself. Generally venues are worth a lot more than their normal value.
For example the March 2013 compilation (normal price 3250) includes the Live, Laugh, Love set (normally 1770) and Le Cinema Plumbob (normally 1900). However, although they appear to be close enough in value they have totally different effects on the CYS calculation. Again, let's use PakaJynx's example:
We're going to assume a reasonable 3500sp total value for the Cinema, due to it having 2 pieces of PC, which is slightly over the value of the arcade in October 2011 at 3355sp. {NOTE: These values, especially for the Arcade are contested. Recent purchasers suggest that the value of the Arcade is closer to 2000sp}
March 2013 price = 3250
LLL value = 2220
Cinema value = 3500
(Set Price*.9)-(Item Cost*.9) = CYS
Buying LLL: (3250*.9)-(2220*.9) = 927 → 925
Buying Cinema: (3250*.9)-(3500*.9) = -225 → Free
As you can see, just by buying the slightly more expensive venue we get the other set for free but doing it the other way round would leave us a big CYS price! Similar effects are seen in other compilations that include a venue.
In Game Only Sales
On previous threads this post reported all items that are not listed on the main Sale! page but are on sale 'in game' only.
It seems that, apart from some of the venue related premium items, there are now few sales that are not also on the website. So, for the moment I will not be maintaining this part of the list.
Though, if anyone does find a hidden stash of in-game only bargains I will add those details here.
Note about weekend only deals
It would appear that the Store team used the excitement over the 2013 Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals to stop offering the week-end freebies
If anyone spots a free item, on any day, do let us know ... we sure love free stuff! :lol:
To those wonderful people who have posted the deal details to keep this thread updated:
Shogo_Yahagi
Wallin
angeljess26
missy2311
Me1620
melissam311554
ladysilver814
Jojo777
APotts
silencedsong
S0Refined
Meg1626
oXseashellXo
lebree
lisasc360
MiaSkywalker
chichinghui
Thaleya425
Anmriej
FryeGuy24
Marvelissa
dragon114
bekkasan
MeldisElvellon
jennaorama
ryuutane
kellycot1
duyguugudur
Tahera
Ximph
wendyyi1
heathermione
Mcdowellashc
kuroi_nekomata
THANK YOU!
All items on the list appear on the Sims 3 Store Daily Deal page in numerical order, typically for one or two hours - However, some very popular items can sell out before time, especially when the list repeats. When the last item has appeared, it repeats some or all of the list starting at #1. The problem, on the first rotation, is that we don't know what the last deal on the list will be so constant vigilance is required!
This list started on the 3rd of July. Previous lists have repeated several times, some did not repeat at all, some repeated but didn't get quite to the end of the list. There's no guarantee that this one will work in the same way as any other list :roll:
Following these DD threads (see the link back to the previous thread below) is also a good way to keep track of what sales prices have been, so you can budget those valuable SimPoints wisely. If you're patient, you can usually find something on sale and it's a good idea to know what price range a particular item has gone for in times past. :mrgreen:
If you wish to check or compare the previous DD rotation please refer to the Old May 2014 List thread
When shopping from the DD, make sure to keep these threads in mind as well as they can help you decide, budget and prioritize:
Free Items: Just to note, see something free, pick it up. It may not stay free for very long or may even be "vaulted". Check this list often as things can change often.
Items not in Set: This is a list of store items that don't come in a set. It also includes info about items that you can only get from sets.
Thank yous
To the previous thread keepers: ajaxpost, Mmdrgntobldrgn, 2Mahawk and, of course, becomingjenn Thank you for keeping us all up to date on previous sales and trends. Letting us know what we've missed or what is coming up (in the cases of repeats) Thank you!
ALWAYS Check the Set Page, NOT the DD Page!
If you already have items in a set that on DD and have a CYS discount, or indeed already own the whole set, the DD page itself may not show this.
To make sure you see the actual price you will pay (including any CYS discount) or confirm that you already own the set, click on the set title to see the full details and that page should show your correct price.
Getting Great Discounts Using Complete Your Set
The 'Complete Your Set' feature introduced on (about) 17th July is a great new way to bag amazing deals on the sets you want - especially if you make use of great DD discounts or, better still, the FREE items.
The Daily Deal Stalkers Research Team in association with our Mathematicians In Residence, Shogo_Yahagi, Jaquaine and PakaJynx, have some very useful advice to offer:
Calculate the CYS Discount On A Set
The basic rule for working out the CYS price is (Set Price*.9)-(Item Cost*.9) rounded up to the nearest 5sp.
So, for example, if a set normally costs 1000sp and the price of all the items in it that you have bought individually is 300sp then your CYS price would be about 630sp (900 - 270).
Calculate the CYS Discount On A Compilation or Combo
The same 90% rule still applies but the trick here is working out which set(s) within the compilation have the most expensive items because that will give you the best discount on the compilation - it may not be the most expensive set and is seldom properly balanced. PakaJynx gave us this example for the Island Escape compilation which normally costs 2400 but the total cost of all the items in the three sets is 3028:
Island Villa 300 (cost of all items = 381)
Full Tiki Set 575 (cost of all items = 872)
Tiki Outdoor Party 1600 (cost of all items = 1775)
If you own the Full Tiki set that would count for 872sp out of the total 3028sp, about 29%. Then using the normal formula (2400* .9)-(872 * .9) you should see a CYS price of 1375sp
Stack Your Discounts
CYS discounts are applied in addition to any Sale page or Daily Deal discount so if you know a set you're after is going to be on sale or is on the DD rotation it's worth waiting to get two discounts in place of just one.
These handy calculators should give you a good estimate of your final price when stacking CYS with a Sale or DD discount:
:arrow: From Elianahere: Just type in the CYS and DD numbers to get your best price: elianahere.jwhostings.net/
:arrow: From APotts: Type in your CYS and the DD discount % to get your best price, or see what % will give you a set for free: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjBxKQ-zJWrQdEIyaFVjWHgxVWhzSE41eXBvU3dCY1E&usp=sharing#gid=0 (can be downloaded so you can play with different numbers.
If you love doing the sums yourself, the information below should help you work out what your final discount price should be or you could use one of the calculators above.
We have Jaquaine to thank for her help in calculating the DD+CYS discounts. This is especially useful when the DD list repeats because you can now check what your final price is likely to be and budget your simpoints accordingly.
The equation is Your Final Price = (DD Price * .9)- ((Full Price * .9) - Normal CYS price)
So, using an example Wallin gave us:
Let's say there's a set for 1000. You own some of it already, so your CYS price is 800. Then it comes up on the DD at 50% off, so the DD price is only 500.
Following the formula:
Full Price = 1000
Normal CYS Price = 800
DD Price = 500
(Full Price * .9) - Normal CYS Price → 900 - 800 → 100
(DD Price * .9) - 100 → 450 - 100 → 350
(1000 * .9) - 800 = 100
(500 * .9) - 100 = 350
So you should expect to only pay 350sp, or something very close to that.
Paying Full Price Is Sometimes Worth It!
As unbelievable as it sounds it's true!
Shogo_Yahagi gave us this example:
1) Go to the Gothic Glamour Home Office Set. Buy the Scary Stare Statue for 25 SP.
2) Now buy the Home Office Set for your new CYS price of 345 SP, for a total spend of 370 SP you've bought a set priced at 408 SP; now watch the dominoes fall...
3) Go to the Gothic Glamour Living Room and Home Office Collection. Hit your shiny new Download Now button to get your Free Gothic Glamour Living Room Set.
4) Go to Technophobe No More. Hit your shiny new Download Now button to get your free MultiTab.
5) Go to the Oh My Goth! Compilation. Hit your shiny new Download Now button to get your free Steampunk Savvy Set, Gothique Sleeping Room, and Gothique Living Room sets.
You now have a compilation of five sets valued at 1750 SP plus a PC item worth 500 SP for only 370 SP! :thumbup:
It works because the first item you buy in a set that is CYS enabled takes more off the price of the set than you paid for the item. But this only works for the first item.
Normally each item you buy only reduces the set price by 90% of the cost of the item but for the first item you also get a bonus of 10% of the whole set price. If you buy the first item in a set at full price, your discount is equal to (10% of the Set Price) - (10% of the item cost).
The 10% of the item cost that you lose is the difference between what you pay and what you save. Therefore the more expensive the item is that you buy the less you will save.
Free Stuff Is Always Worth It
Take this example calculated by Murphysluck:
Some time ago the week-end freebies were two items in the Club Vaindenburger Den set, and that set was also discounted by 40%:
However if you got only the two free items and then went to the Club Vaindenburger Den set page in the Store you would see a CYS price of just 155 that's an impressive 69% discount!
Then, now you've got the Den, why not get the Club Vaindenburger study as well as part of the Club Vaindenburger Relaxation combo which is now only 295. So, by picking up the two FREE items you can get both Club Vaindenburger sets for a total price of 450sp - that's a tasty 50% discount! :thumbup:
Buy The Venue First
NOTE: This advice is currently contested. The "assumed" values for venues may not be as substantial as previously thought. There have been documented reports that purchasing Le Cinema Plumbob and The Stones Throw Greenhouse will get you either a very large CYS discount on the compilations that they are part of or even, potentially, make them free. Not all venues will be as significant. In particular the Regency Arcade appears to be have been greatly overvalued. Until such time as we can get up-to date values for the venues please use caution and only buy them when their price is acceptable to you on its own; do not pay more for them than you are happy with just to get an extra discount on a compilation.
There is one slight problem with doing the maths on compilations and that is when a venue is included.
The problem is that you cannot see the true total cost of a venue. You will normally see a price for any PC that is included but the various build/buy and CAS items are not usually available individually so you do not know how much they would cost and, of course, there is some value in the build itself. Generally venues are worth a lot more than their normal value.
For example the March 2013 compilation (normal price 3250) includes the Live, Laugh, Love set (normally 1770) and Le Cinema Plumbob (normally 1900). However, although they appear to be close enough in value they have totally different effects on the CYS calculation. Again, let's use PakaJynx's example:
We're going to assume a reasonable 3500sp total value for the Cinema, due to it having 2 pieces of PC, which is slightly over the value of the arcade in October 2011 at 3355sp. {NOTE: These values, especially for the Arcade are contested. Recent purchasers suggest that the value of the Arcade is closer to 2000sp}
March 2013 price = 3250
LLL value = 2220
Cinema value = 3500
(Set Price*.9)-(Item Cost*.9) = CYS
Buying LLL: (3250*.9)-(2220*.9) = 927 → 925
Buying Cinema: (3250*.9)-(3500*.9) = -225 → Free
As you can see, just by buying the slightly more expensive venue we get the other set for free but doing it the other way round would leave us a big CYS price! Similar effects are seen in other compilations that include a venue.
In Game Only Sales
On previous threads this post reported all items that are not listed on the main Sale! page but are on sale 'in game' only.
It seems that, apart from some of the venue related premium items, there are now few sales that are not also on the website. So, for the moment I will not be maintaining this part of the list.
Though, if anyone does find a hidden stash of in-game only bargains I will add those details here.
Note about weekend only deals
It would appear that the Store team used the excitement over the 2013 Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals to stop offering the week-end freebies
If anyone spots a free item, on any day, do let us know ... we sure love free stuff! :lol:
To those wonderful people who have posted the deal details to keep this thread updated:
Shogo_Yahagi
Wallin
angeljess26
missy2311
Me1620
melissam311554
ladysilver814
Jojo777
APotts
silencedsong
S0Refined
Meg1626
oXseashellXo
lebree
lisasc360
MiaSkywalker
chichinghui
Thaleya425
Anmriej
FryeGuy24
Marvelissa
dragon114
bekkasan
MeldisElvellon
jennaorama
ryuutane
kellycot1
duyguugudur
Tahera
Ximph
wendyyi1
heathermione
Mcdowellashc
kuroi_nekomata
THANK YOU!
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